Sai Vichaar 01.Feature of the Week: Human Values 02.Contributed Article: Kama is not love 03.Experiences of Devotees 04.Devotees Say 05.Sai Activities 06.Prayer Club 07.Quote of the Week 08.Question of the Week 09.Subscribe to Sai Vichaar 10.Email Newsletter to a friend 11.Submit Articles to Sai Vichaar 12.Un-Subscribe Sai Vichaar 13.From the Editor's Keyboard 14.Disclaimer From the Editor's Keyboard... Sai Vichaar and all of us at saibaba.org extends its condolences to those bereaving the tragic loss of life at the events in New York, and Washington DC. Our thoughts and prayers are with those suffering this ordeal. May the departed souls rest in peace. Writes Sai Devotee Radhika G, "I have posted the question WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NANDADEEP AND NANDANVAN ? Request you to kindly enligten me with the answers because, I have approched many people with this question but received no replies as yet." The Question of the week for this week is, "WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NANDADEEP AND NANDANVAN?" Humbly yours, The Editor
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![]() I was discussing reactions to the horrifying episode on 11 September 2001 with a friend. She was describing reaction of her 8-year-old son who was disappointed when they were showing nothing but the updates on Attack on America. The child's comments were 'that has happened last night people are dead, what can we do now talking about it, they should get along with other programs'. Then after going home my 8 year old son asked me 'it is so boring they keep on showing the same thing since morning, how long are they going to show all this'. These comments kept me thinking -- what values am I teaching my child? Is value of human life is just a minute of silence as a mark of respect to the dead and getting along with life pretending as if nothing has happened? Is this what our lord has taught us? As none of our dear ones was involved, so is it fair to think that it is not our problem, so we do not have to waste time in thinking about it? I asked 8 year old how he would have felt if either his dad or I were in that building which collapsed, I asked him his reaction, he was stunned, he said he would be very sad, 'probably the saddest kid in the world'. Then I said that is how thousands of children, wives, or mothers who have lost someone very dear to them are feeling. As a human beings it is our responsibility to look after the welfare of others around us too and the least we could do it pray for them. Then my son asked me 'what is the use of praying for them they are already dead', I said to give strength to the family members and most important of all when these people are reborn in their next life they should not face such tragedy. About couple of hours after this conversation, my 3 year old who was present during this conversation, told me, 'mummy I am going to pray to Baba', I said okay. He prays to the picture of BABA in our bedroom, comes to me, and says 'mummy Baba says he will take care of the people'. This innocent remark moved my heart and I thought well it is not hard to teach good values. I made a difference! Children are like clays you can mould them as you like. Everything that they do and say is what they have learnt from us - Parents and environment they live in. When we react indifferently so do they. Empathy is a greatest quality that would stop the wars. Why did BABA show his grief when Megha died? Why did BABA take on him the bubos of Mrs. Khaparde's son, when she prayed to HIM about her plague-inflicted son? Why do we pray to BABA when we are in pain and trouble? Is it not to lighten the burden of our problems? How will BABA lighten our problems unless HE suffers for us? Every religion has taught the same principle of love, forgiveness and empathy. Another thing we should remember is that BABA has promised that if HE takes a rupee from anyone HE has to return 100 times of the value of the rupee. HE also said that HE resides in the hearts of all human beings so to treat them with respect and love. Does this not mean that when you covet someone's money or cheat them you loose in the same proportion too? When you harm someone, will you also not be subjected to the same humiliation at some point in your life? I know of people who disrespected their parents in their youth, gave them lot of trouble and neglected them in their old age, and now those children are somebody's parents and they do not have a night of peaceful rest as they are being subjected to the same treatment in multiples. I know of a daughter-in-law who abused her mother-in-law and now a mother-in-law herself is subjected to the same fate. I personally know people who profess to be staunch devotees of BABA and have destroyed lives of people to the point of driving a young woman to commit suicide and covering it up saying it was death of natural causes. Do you think these people are happy - no definitely not, they have offspring who have congenital problems and misery in their lives. I know of people who unintentionally committed harm to others - but were they spared because they did not intend to harm others. I remember Guruji Satpathiji, when he was in Sydney for Sydney Sai UTSAV 2001 saying universe works on Einstein's equation of proportionality 'for every action there is equal and opposite reaction', so also Sri Gopala Rao Ravada saying to me when I visited him in India that 'love begets love, do no harm to others you will not be harmed'. I find this very true. I am sure all of you would agree with me too. Just take about half an hour of your time - I know it is difficult with our current life style, try it anyway - talk to your spouse about the people or yourself and your position and what have you done previously that is effecting you or others around you. You will be surprised with the answers. We do not have to die to go to hell for out bad deeds, we suffer the consequences of good or bad in our current life. I remember an astrologer who is quite famous in Hyderabad saying 'we can change the lines of our fate through prayers and good deeds'. BABA also reassures Dr Pillay that he could work out his sufferings in 10 days, instead of 10 births, and blessed him. Perhaps we could make a start now, help your neighbor or friend, let us make it a conscious habit of doing good deed a day. That will unconsciously develop into a habit. Children are like sponges they absorb a lot of things and most important of all they trust us - 'parents'. So what we teach makes a lot of difference to world. Do not say that we cannot make a difference, start it at home. Perhaps when they grow up they will not suffer the trauma and impact of hatred, and destruction as we are suffering now. BABA says "He, who sees Me in all these creatures is My beloved. So abandon the sense of duality and distinction, and serve Me". As true devotees of SAI let us all adapt these golden words and see SAI in all beings, perhaps that will reduce the ill feeling between us. Sairam (Contributed by Anitha Kandukuri, Saidarbar, Canberra, Australia)
Contributed Article: Kama is not love
We misuse the word "love" a lot. We think and say that two people are in
love when there is physical attraction and emotional attachment between
two people. Assuming this meaning for "love", some people even wonder
why Krishna is called an Avatar because He had eight wives but also
loved Radha and thousands of Gopikas and was loved by them all.
Krishna's love is not related to the physical body. Physical attraction
and emotional craving is not love. It is Kama, desire. There is cheating
and lust in the context of Kama when one does not honor one's
commitments. God's love is true love, which Krishna gave to Rukmini, the
other seven wives, Radha, Gopikas, Pandavas, and many other devotees.
Each of the Gopikas was thinking that Krishna was with her. They were
all His devotees and He was with every one of them. God can and does
give His love at the same time to several devotees who love Him. In
fact, God loves even those who do not love Him. They cannot see it
because they have not opened themselves to receive it. Therefore there
is no such thing as cheating in Divine love just like several children
are all loved by one mother. Those who think Krishna is a playboy are
misinterpreting the scriptures.
Since the mother's love is the most unselfish love that one experiences
in one's life we often say Sai's love is that of a mother. In fact,
Sai's love or Krishna's love is far superior to that of any mother in
this world in the following sense. The love of an ordinary human mother
is confined only to her children whereas God's love is not confined to
one person or one community. God loves all His creation. Krishna loved
not only women but men also. He was protecting Pandavas constantly.
Because He taught Arjuna Gita does not mean that He loved Arjuna more or
less than other Pandavas or Gopikas. He was showering His grace on each
devotee in a way that is suiatable to him/her for receiving it because
different people grasp through different ways of communication. Baba was
like that too. Baba used different ways to teach those who approached
Him and different ways to draw people to Him.
There is significance in depicting Krishna as being surrounded by
Gopikas. In general, women are considered less egoistic than men are.
This is a general view, it does not mean that every man is egoistic and
no woman has any ego. A Gopika who is enjoying Krishna's company
represents a devotee who has completely surrendered ego to the Lord.
Krishna's influence was such that with His darshan, a devotee could
easily lose the ego and is immersed in His divine love. The picture of
One Krishna and several Gopikas conveys that He is the one and only one
Supreme I, the Consciousness, and the devotees who are experiencing His
divine love have absolutely no ego.
(Contributed by Syamala Hari)
Susheela Maganty
MRK and T.M. Srinivasan
anudwegakaram vakyam satyam priyahitam cha
In the Sankaracharya bhashya of Bhagawadgitha, the following translation is given for the above: Words that do not pain living beings, truthful, pleasing and good. The last epithet refers to results, visible and invisible. To achieve verbal penance, all those attributes must be present in every utterance. Further, "Yaa kaavaar ayunum naa kaakka; kaavaakkaal sogappar solizukkapattu" says Tiruvalluvar, the greatest Tamil poet and writer. This means: "even if you can not control any other sense, control the tongue (naa). Inappropriate use of tongue will bring about tragedy. Yes, the tongue has a duel role; both are perhaps unique for humans; speech is the most unique. Sriram Rachakonda
Poorna Sairam
Niranjana Kumaran
A Sai devotee
A Sai sister
Sairam sister Padma, our prayers are with you. Surely, all of us will pray for your success and for you to retain your current job. Swami will give you good health and you should be strong for the sake of your kids. Sometimes I go through the phase where I feel that I do not have any close friends to talk or share my feelings. Some people talk to you and suddenly turn their faces around. Ever since I have come into Swami's fold, I have no regrets about these friends. If you keep all these kinds of feelings its not fair for the kids. Your kids need you and you should be strong for them. A friend in need and Swami is your best friend. May BABA bless you with the good job, your testing period comes to an end soon, and may you be a great mother for the kids. Dear Sai devotee Geeetika, you got the idea of fasting on Thursday with
Baba's blessing only. This is my belief in Sai. I also fast on Thursday.
Baba never recommended fasting on empty stomach. I avoid salt & spices
on Thursday. You can have fruits, milk, and some nuts once or twice on
fasting day. It depends on your mental ability. I get extra
concentration on Baba particularly when I fast.
Rameshchandrabose Kanakamedala
Usha Ramaseshan
Usha Sastry
Aalap
"Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil; for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me." - Psalm 23 ![]() Back to Menu Q. Why did Baba sleep at Chawdi and Dwarakamayi, and why is that women are forbidden to enter the sacred room in Chawdi? A. by Niranjana Kumaran
Shirdi Sai Mahotsav 2001
The second day program included Vishwa Shanthi Homam for world peace,
spiritual discourses, Inter-faith prayers, and a slide show depicting
the life and teachings of Sadguru Sainath. The evening was beautified by
the fabulous Festival of Lights and a play on miracles of Sai Baba
enacted by children. The highlight of the evening was the Palki Seva,
the ceremonial enactment of Baba's Palanquin. This event brought to the
sight of devotees, those pious days in Shirdi whence Nana, Tatya,
Mahalsa, Bhagoji, and Laxmibhai were immersed in the pure ambrosia of
Sai devotion. The day concluded with Shej Arati and Mahaprasad. Shirdi
Sai Mahotsav was organized by Sai Samsthan USA. Please visit
www.saisamsthanusa.org for more details.
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