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Sai Vichaar

Oct 03, 2002
Volume 5, Issue 20
(In its fifth year of publication)


01.Feature of the Week: The Perfect One
02.Contributed Article: Is it possible He is alive?
03.Experiences of Devotees
04.Devotees Say
05.Sai Activities
06.Prayer Club
07.Quote of the Week
08.Question of the Week
09.Subscribe to Sai Vichaar
10.Email Newsletter to a friend
11.Submit Articles to Sai Vichaar
12.Un-Subscribe Sai Vichaar
13.From the Editor's Keyboard
14.Disclaimer


From the Editor's Keyboard...

Please refer to Sai activities for information on Shri Shirdi Sai Thalli, a unique Holiday Gift service for sending the blessings of Saibaba to the beloved living in India. This is a service from Shirdi Saibaba website organization. Please write to support@saibaba.org for more information.

Sai devotees in Twin Cities area of Minnesota may refer to Sai activities section for information on Mahasamadhi Celebrations to be conducted by Shirdi Saibaba Prayer Center of Twin Cities, Minnesota. Mahasamadhi, the physical demise of Saibaba of Shirdi is one occasion that Sai devotees observe all over the world. Baba's Mahasamadhi falls on October 15, 2002. Please share with Sai Vichaar about Mahasamadhi activities planned in your area.

The "Question of the week" for the week is,

Q. Why did Baba cry like an ordinary man during the death of a few of His devotees?

Humbly Yours,

The Editor

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Disclaimer

Sai Vichaar is devoted to the philosophy and teachings of Shri Sadguru Sai Baba of Shirdi, and will take every measure to avoid topics or themes contradicting the same.

Sai Vichaar team or saibaba.org is not responsible for the opinions expressed by individual contributors.
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Feature of the week: The Perfect One

Sai Baba of Shirdi was proficient in several Yogic practices and His accomplishments are still not completely deciphered. The missing years before the Lord showed up in Shirdi is yet to be accounted for. In fact, His simplicity was deceptively dissuading to even great saadhakas that approached Shirdi. The stories of Megha and Somdev are two such examples. However, myth shattered, these great men did not waste a minute and had good fortunes of having enlisted in His Kingdom. Rarely did Baba led His followers into His physical self, be it the Dhauthi that dismayed some of the accidental onlookers or the proficiency in Sri Mad BhagavadGita Nana had seen for himself. Abdul did mention that Baba used to recite Kalma and other versed in Urdu. He also depicts incidents where Baba chatted with Moslem scholars, although such events were rare in Shirdi and probably have not been always recorded. No Mantras chanted and no benediction pronounced. He did not prescribe any Asanas, neither he approved fasting. Initiation may have a different connotation in spiritual world. But Baba's magic then and now has drawn several to His mystic self. Whether one would call this initiation or divine call, it is a fortune, a blessing to be revered. He is Rama the king, He is Krishna the thief (the Great one that stole butter), He is Mohammed, the Prophet, and the Messaih Jesus. Let us on this holy day reaffirm our faith to the Simple One, and the Perfect One and contemplate on His self.
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Contributed Article: Is it possible He is alive?

(Contributed by MRK, Phoenix, AZ)

While divinity is beyond life and death and God's manifestations do not fall into the human categorization of living and dying, it is always intriguing to explore the physical nature of God's manifestation. A saadhaka's intense attachment to sadguru's form makes him long to seek he Sadguru physically as far as possible. Hindu tradition shows Narada and Markandeya are chiranjeevis, always alive. It was being said that Arunachala in Tiruvannamalai has living sadhus doing meditation. Theosophists believe that their leaders guide them as spirits from Himalayas. Paramahamsa Yoganand's guru Yukteswar always talked of His guru hundred years old appeared to him at Calcutta now and then. Why should we Shirdi Sai devotees doubt His living or blessing us with His grace? How did our Guru live? He had one cloth, stayed in Dwarakamayi, and was surrounded by only poor people in the village. His grace flowed on them. Though there were rich devotees like Booty, most of His devotees were from middle class and lower middle class. He looked after all with one Grace without distinction. He was not like those Saints and Yogis who charge fees for their teaching in some form or other, except asking Dakshina of small amounts. Such was is grace. He treated Hindus and Muslims alike. He never had any distinction typical of realized soul and siddhapurusha. Thus, His much splendor glory flowed and flows on those who have faith and patience. OM SAIRAM
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Experiences of Devotees

Ragini
Sairam! I would like to share one divine experience of Baba.I don't know somebody believe or not Baba has many time said something in my dream and it is really happen in my life.But now my mind is confused.I am daily pray to Baba for my marraige but Baba has didn't listen me.But I know all things happen in life according to our karma.so I am complain to Baba for my problem sometime only but one day I kindly pray to Baba I want to know some points of my husband.So I am pure in my mind.After somedays baba has told me in my dream your husband's name starting from D or H.It's kark rashi and now I am finally going India from Canada for my marriage.So please please Sai devotees advise me I have to marry with a person whose name starting from D or H? I told my family who living here.They advise me you are always reading Baba's book and think also, so you see Baba in your dream.I have faith on Baba.But can you too advise me please?

P N Krishnamurthy,Chennai
Baba blessed me with a son after seven years. We prayed Baba that once we get an issue we will come to Shiridi and seek His blessings.We got an opportunity to go to Shiridi. In fact my first visit was before my marriage. It is a miracle, I was longing to visit Shiridi and somehow I could not visit. During the year 1992 in Chennai a devotee constructed a Shiridi temple and by I had been to the inaguaration function (Kumbabishekam). A staunch devotee who was instrumental for constructing this temple is an I P S. He resigned his job and devoted his time in Shiridi Baba Service.On the day of Kumbabishekam, he was in that temple. I went and met him and being a senior person who has devoted his life in Sai Service, I just told him about my interesting in visiting Shiridi. He blessed me and told that I will visit very soon. I returned from the temple and next day I started going to my office. Suddenly my Boss called me and told there is a Board Meeting in Mumbai and please book airticket in Executive Class for all of us. By profession I was a Secretary and I said yes and I was about to come out of his room. He called me again and said this time, we want you to come to Mumbai. Please book one Executive class ticket for u also and immediately he said I know u are devotee of Shridi Sai so u can book yr return ticket after two or three days. U may visit Shridi and come. I was really thrilled because before this and after this none of the Secretary's are allowed to go for Board Meeting. It was exclusively arranged by Baba for me to visit Shridi.
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Devotees say...

A Sai Devotee
Is it not possible to take an approach, which does not involve dishonesty or hiding things from your husband, and at the same time, allows you to talk to your parents more often? I do not know your situation, so this is not a sermon or anything, but just a suggestion.

First, why does you husband restrict calls home to twice a month? Is it because the financial situation is that bad? If not, or if you and your husband differ in your opinion on this, is it not possible to discuss your feeling of loneliness with home and come to an arrangement? Maybe the calling card would be a cheaper option which will make your husband comfortable with more frequent calls - I am assuming that his objection is purely on financial grounds. If his objection is so vehement that you are contemplating taking a decision and hiding it from him, won't things become even worse if he comes to know of it later? Just my thoughts, and hope you find some amicable and satisfactory solution.

A Sai devotee
Reply to MRK Phoenix, AZ. I am an anchor home too in Phoenix. If anybody wants the picture and the devotees are eagerly waiting for a chance I can help them take the picture from me. As far as I know, we can extend the yatra but you may want to confirm about that. Also, I would like to participate in any satsang/sai bhajan that takes place in and around Phoenix. Sainath Maharaj ki Jai!

Pradip Prasad Koirala
On the auspicious occasion of Sadguru Sainath's birth date (Sept 27 2002), I wish all the successes, happy physical and spiritual life for all the Sai devotees. Sai Baba will bless you on all your endeavors. Om Sai Sree Sai Jaya Jaya Sai. Special honor to respected guruji Satpathy ji.

Lakshmi
I am worshipping Saibaba since 1989.And as each day passed my faith became stronger towards him. We are having many Saibaba pictures at home most of which were presentation. This is Baba's way to show me that he is with me. For the past few days, I am getting some feeling to worship Baba in human form. Do padaabhisekham to him; take blessing from his hand by touching my head. I read from sai Vichaar that Baba gives dracaena to devotees even now. Blessed are people who saw Baba with their eyes. What should I do to see you? Please guide me Baba.
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Prayer Club

Sekhar,Hyderabad,India
Baba! You are my god right from the beginning and you have been taking care of us. Now I have lost my job on November 2nd (11 months back) and I did not get job anywhere. One year old son giridhar Sai has got blood cancer in February, 2002. I do not have money which you know very well. I am really finding it difficult to get money for treatment and and for survival as lot of money is required for treatment.

Baba... You are my father.. Kindly cure blood cancer for Giridhar Sai Baba and kindly bless me with a good job and bless me to get money for the treatment and family maintenance... I do not know where from I should get......KIndly save us from the problems Baba.. You are the saviour... Kindly save us Swami...

A Sai devotee
I have moved from New Zealand to Victoria, Australia about more than 8 months ago. I am a registered pharmacist in both New Zealand and Victoria, Australia. My current job is not professionally satisfactory and they are not the best people to work for either. I would like to pray to our beloved SAI BABA that he would help me find a suitable job that I would enjoy. JAI SAI RAM.

A Sai devotee
I want to request to pray Sai devotees for me. Pls this is my request to all my Sai devotees. I am struggling myself from 16th age with situations but still my problems are with me. So pls pray for me to get a good life. Hey Sai Baba pls forgive my sins and my head is on your lotus feet. Pls ,pls baba pls show mercy on me. I don't have any chance other than You. I think You are with me but still pls Baba forgive all my sins and give me happy life to my parents and me. Please Baba, please listen to my words.

Sai devotee
Please help me.i am abroad at present.this is my 7th year here .this year i was supposed to complete my medical studies but due to some problem {not in studies}, i was not able to finish.the problem occured in april 2002 and till now it is not getting solved inspite of the continuous struggling, praying to god.it can be solved very easily i.e. it is not a big problem but something is stopping it.please help.i will continuously pray to god but please tell me some prayer so that i can seek the blessings of sai baba.please help.please write as soon as possible.each day for me is like a year.everybody has got the degree and come back to india,but only i am left.please help.
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Quotation of the Week
My treasury is full, and I can give anyone, what he wants, but I have to see whether he is qualified to receive my gift - Shri Sai Baba of Shirdi
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Question of the Week

Q. Why did Baba discourage the practice of Yoga at the same time was seen performing Yogic practices such as Khanda Yoga and Dhauti?

A. by Sai Devotee

A. Sai Ram. Baba discouraged yoga only for those who were trying to develop special Siddhis or powers, which He knew would obstruct their further spiritual progress. He was a Master, Who has crossed that stage a long ago and Siddhis never troubled Him.

Through Khanda Yoga, Baba wanted to convey to us that duality is an illusion, i.e. the feeling of separateness from each other and from our Guru/God is due to our accumulated layers of Avidya. Each of us is like a limb/atom in God's body of this Universe! And each of us are in the right place! Baba showed that not only He could separate all the different parts of His body, but also, more importantly could put them all back together correctly like putting the various pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. Baba has solved the puzzle of life long ago!

Through Dhauti, Baba showed that one must keep the outside and inside of the physical, mental and spiritual bodies clean, like a temple, so that it is fit for Sri Hari to reside. He said in reply to Das Ganu Maharaj's statement that he will do the Nama Saptah, if he was assured of Vithal Darsan at the end of the Saptah; "Certainly Vitthal would appear; but for that the devotee must be 'earnest and devout'. The Dankapuri (Takore) of Dakurnath, the Pandari of Vitthal, the Dwaraka of Ranchod (Krishna) is here (Shirdi). One need not go far out to see Dwaraka. Will Vitthal come here from some outside place? He is here. Only when the devotee is bursting with love and devotion, Vitthal will manifest Himself here (Shirdi)." Page 19, Sai Satcharitra, English version by Sri Gunaji. Love and devotion to our Sadguru are the purifying processes in us.

If Baba desired, He would have ensured that no mortal could see His yogic practices. Like He never allowed anyone to see, how He got onto and from the plank suspended so high and when devotees started spying on Him, He simply broke the plank into pieces and through it away (or probably in the Dhuni?)! That He allowed these two yogic practices to be seen implied that He wanted to convey some important spiritual instruction through them.

A. by Srinivasan Radhakrishnan
Everybody knows difference between humans and our Baba .He can do anything that is beyond our imagination. He wanted that all his devotees should lead a simple life. Baba has achieved his perfection as he was practicing yoga since many births. We should not attempt those things, which are beyond our control. For example, Baba could separate his hands and limbs. Can we do that? So he suggested that do not try anything that is beyond our capacity. Have faith in him. He will do well. Allah malik

A. Arjun Yadavalli
The answer to the question of the week can be understood better by the writings in the Sai Satcharitha. The gist of what Sai says is as follows :

" In order to travel from one place to another, you need to know two things. One being the impetus or the reason we want to go there and two, the way to get there. The way to get there is shown to us by the Guru. We need to have faith in him and just tread his path. But the impetus to do the job should come from within.

All the yoga, yagnyas and other auspicious activities are good and were developed to make this journey as easy as possible. But in general people spend more time and energy finding out how these yogas are performed rather than understanding WHY."

That may be the reason He forbade most of his devotees from taking a cue from his yogic activities. He was more satisfied to see them devote their whole and undividing faith in Him and try to get to know, WHY they have to do what they are doing.
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Sai Activities

Shri Shirdi Sai Thaali for India – A Holiday Gift Service from www.saibaba.org
Shirdi Sai Thaali is a unique gift giving opportunity for devotees residing in far away land to their loved ones in India. This service includes sending a gift package consisting of Sai material including books, magazines, audiotapes, CDs and pictures of Saibaba in a custom made platter consecrated at Shirdi.
Sending a gift is an act of giving. Giving develops detachment. Keeping in line with our mission, the Thaali concept is developed after careful consideration and deliberation and around material relating to Shri Sai Baba. The results of this program can only be measured by the happiness and peace one gets when one receives the thaali. Talking to someone who has actually received a Thaali and knowing their feelings only will make one realize the true value of Shri Shirdi Sai Thaali.
We hope that Sai devotees around the world will use this opportunity to send Shri Shirdi Sai Thaali to the beloved in India this holiday season. To request a Shri Shirdi Sai Thaali, please visit http://www.saibaba.org. For any questions or concerns, please contact us by email at support@saibaba.org. Shirdi Saibaba Website Organization is a Non-profit organization.

Poor Feeding at Sabarimala, India
Dear Sai devotees, some Sai devotees at Hyderabad, A.P plan to conduct Annadaanam (serving of rice) at Sabarimala during the Mandala pooja festival in December 2002. Devotees are welcome to contribute for the same. Enquiries and contributions may please be sent to the following mail address and contact number:- Padma Venkatesh. blvmurthy@sify.com. 91-7578-52149.

Bus Yatra to from Edison NJ to Shirdi Sai Baba temple in Baldwin, Long Island NY – October 13, 2002
All Sai devotees living in the area are invited to join the Bus Yatra on October 13, 2002 (Sunday). The bus will leave at 8.30-8.45am from Oak Tree Road. Temple activities planned for that day are: 10.30-12.00am Kumkum Puja along with Lalitha Sahasranam. This will be followed by Bhajans, Aarti and Mahaprasad. Following that the bus will leave around 2.15 from Long Island back to New Jersey. There is NO COST to participate in the yatra. Devotees may bring Naivedya to the temple. For details, please contact Bharat Sanyal at 732-940-2226 or email at saiyash@yahoo.com.

Shirdi Saibaba Prayer Center, Twin Cities, MN
By the grace and blessings of the Sadguru Sainath Maharaj, Shirdi Saibaba Prayer Center is pleased to invite all for the inauguration of the Prayer Center for the benefit of Sai devotees in the Twin Cities and surrounding areas of Minnesota at 725-139 NE Lake Street, Hopkins, MN. The inaugural program on September 29 2002 will start at 6.00 AM with Mangalsnan to Baba and conclude with Madhyahna aarthi at 12.00 Noon. The program will include Sai ashtothra naamavali, Vishnu Sahasranama Parayan, Bhajans, Kirthans and Sai Naama Jap. For details, please contact hamaresai@yahoo.com. Shirdi Saibaba Prayer Center will house Sadguru Saibaba’s murthy and will conduct regular services and satsangs. The Prayer Center is grateful to www.saibaba.org for their support and donation of the marble murthy of Saibaba of Shirdi.

Shirdi Sai Baba Chitra Yatra, Toronto, Canada
Devotees in TORONTO, are invited to please join us in Sai bhajans, Sai Namavali, Saicharitra readings Aarti and Prasad at Durga Mandir 2691 Markham Rd. Unit #5; Ph: 416 754 2983 every Thursday from 6:30pm to 8:00pm. Devotees may participate in Shri Shirdi Sai Chitra Yatra currently underway in Toronto. To invite Baba to your home and for further details and directions contact Shammi Chopra at 416 402 8089 or shchopra@trebnet.com or visit www.saibaba.org

Shirdi Sai Baba Prayer Center, South Brunswick, NJ
Saibaba.org invites you to join for Sai puja, bhajans, Saicharitra readings, aarti and prasad every sunday at VFW hall at Henderson Rd, Kendall Park, South Brunswick, NJ from 3pm-6pm. For further details or directions contact Kumad Sachdev at (732) 257-1438, Shyam Addanki at (610) 648-0191 or email us at maildrop@saibaba.org.

Shri Shirdi Sai Chitra Yatra 2002 in UK
Devotees may participate in Shri Shirdi Sai Chitra Yatra currently underway in UK. To invite Baba to your home and for further details please contact Manu Bajaj at bajaj_manu@yahoo.com or call at +44 7905 933 489 in Wembley, UK

Shri Shirdi Sai Chitra Yatra 2002 in USA
"Shri Shirdi Sai Chitra Yatra(Pictorial Journey)", started in USA on Jan 01, 2002. With anchor points across USA concurrently participating from day one, this unique event is off to a great start.

The journey which involves the ceremonial travel of Baba in the form of a portrait will stop at all Baba devotees homes who are interested in being a host to his protrait. The Yatra which will run till fall of this year, is open to one and all. There is no fees or charges involved to take part in this event. You may participate either as a host home or serve as an anchor point in your community.

Vist online at yatra page for all the details and to register.

For questions, comments, suggestions or to get details on an Anchor home in your area, send us an email at maildrop@saibaba.org with the subject line of "Shri Sai Chitra Yatra".
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